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My favorite bindings. Highly responsive, love the highbacks, smoothest ratchets ever. Light weight. Occasionally the toe strap scootches up. I tore the padding off the Burton plates and re-stuck them to the 4-whole plates, which worked surprisingly well.
I have had these for a few months and at first the high backs hurt my legs really bad. They have held up pretty well except the highback adjuster thing broke off one of them so now they cannot be adjusted, but its allright because i dont ride with any forword lean
is the calf bite you get from these really...
is the calf bite you get from these really that bad
and will it effect my riding
and finally will it actually like hurt or just annoying
I had the previous year of these bindings and while i was riding burton boots, i absolutely loved them. I then switched to 32 lashed and could not ride them anymore. Even with every adjustment made possible, i was so bad i couldnt ride heel edge. great bindings for burton boots though...
i just bought a ride concept tms and was...
i just bought a ride concept tms and was wondering if this binding would work well with it and also i wear a 10.5 should i go with the M?
yes it will work and a medium would be snug
These bindings are awesome for freeriders. They are light, stiff, and comfy! So Ideal. The leather straps form wonderfully to the shape of your boot and don't create any pressure points like some other bindings I've owned. I was almost done with burton bindings after my last pair weighed so much, but I took a chance and tried these cause they matched my new Arbor Coda so nicely. Burton has made a lot of improvements in the last few years that have really stepped these bindings up. The FLAD (Forward Lean Adjuster) is now a tool-less knob that is easily adjusted on the fly, and the straps themselves are easily adjusted. The ratcheting device is solid on the top and bottom straps.
The cartel cap strap is a little different than the prior cap straps burton put out. This one looks like a regular strap but it has a notch in the middle, works much better.
These feel solid and high tech, I would say worth every dollar. Burton also has rad customer service, assuming backcountry.com doesn't take care of problems first.
Binding are pretty rad. Light, responsive, adjustable and comfortable. great for wherever you want to ride, and are a little on the stiff side.
Only complaint is that the Highbacks on these have soo much forward lean on them even on the lowest setting.
any time soon you will have large bindings...
any time soon you will have large bindings in white
Will only rock Cartels...
I have a year or two older version without the ICS and love these Cartels. I've tried a few different kinds of bindings, but once I picked up a pair of these, I was set. Now going on two seasons with me riding em pretty hard through the parks of NC and a trip or two into some deep powder out West. The toe cap is awesome, since I've had problems with foot lift problems on other bindings. Toe cap stays on the toe and gives great support and stability for rippin some rails. Honestly, you cant go wrong with these, even if you're not a Burton fan
The best for a reason
These arent goof off bindings or for the faint of heart, but they dont run the 300+ price tag that some other tall, stiff, quick and responsive all terain bindings do (ahem, C60's). As previously stated they are tall, beware of the calf bite for the first few runs, but you will get used to it. They are a little stiff but that means they are quick and nimble and respond instantly, but probly not the best choice for your urban jib board. They are very comfortable, like flying an F-15 in a lazy boy!...after the calf bite goes away theres not much discomfort anywhere on the foot...ive spent a considerable amount of time on the 3D ones and have recently upgraded to the EST version and cant wait.
Big bang for middle of the road price, sweet bindings.
Are these good bindings for an intermediate...
Are these good bindings for an intermediate snowboarder? I've heard the highbacks can cause some problems for newer snowboarders
oh yeah these are perfect for intermediate riders, honestly they are fine for all levels, especially intermediate+...they wouldnt be my first choice for a total begginer because they are pretty burly, but they get the job done too.
These are very great bindings. They haven't broken yet but I had a few cases where the base plate came loose and my to straps became loose...other than that i love these very great bindings with a Dom Grom
Cartel Vs Solomon SPX Pros
Everyone on this site gets some bindings or boards and just says they're amazing bla bla bla. I had some 2008 Solomon spx pro's or what ever they were called but got them stolan in march this year. I brought the Cartels (pink) and i'll try and compare them as good as i can:
The solomons were a little more flexible and moved real good. However toe straps after a year or so were starting to become loose and whatever solomon say about "easy adjust" they are not!!!! but all in all really flexy and really responsive!!! great beginner binding!
The Cartels little less manovability, But way more cushioning and more rugged. 10x better toe strap really huggs ur toe right in. U'll either love or hate the high back it's great for more aggresive stanced riders such as myself. You do get 4 screw bases but i havn't tried it yet.
All in all not much in it the solomons were deffo a little more flexi but the cartels are more comfy better fit and way more rugged.
Alright I started to snowboard last winter...
Alright I started to snowboard last winter and i just rented from the resort i went to and I loved it.. This summer I'm going to buy gear for next year.. I'm about 6'3" 6'4" 205lbs... and my shoe size is 15 and my basketball shoes are 16 so what should my sizes be for my board, bindings, and boots?? Thanks!
board needs to be a 165 at least and a WIDE like the burton custom X WIDE. you need a large in these bindings and boots get whatever will fit you want something wiht a low profile boots will be hard there are only a few out there that fit so done be picky
When are you getting more large Burton...
When are you getting more large Burton Cartel bindings in matte black?
they wont be getting any more in becasue it is last years model, they will get the 2010 ones in the summer tho
Yup, look for them in August. Also, don't forget to watch brociety.com as well, some killer deals lately...
Whats the story with using these on non...
Whats the story with using these on non burton boards - ie with a four hole setup? Someone mentioned in the review that there was difference in the height/thickness of the 3 hole versus 4 hole screw plates?
These come with two sets of discs- a set of four hole discs for non Burton boards and a set of three hole (non ICS/EST) for Burton boards. Since the three hole discs are for Burton boards, they reward you with a layer of plush EVA foam on top of the disc. The four hole ones have no foam, this is Burton punishing you for not having a Burton board to go with.
Honestly though, I have these with the four hole discs on another brands board and they are still very comfortable. The EVA foam on the three hole discs is just an added feature, it has nothing to do with compatibility.
Dakka nailed it, the 3 holes have additional EVA foam.
Got a pair size LARGE, but they loot so...
Got a pair size LARGE, but they loot so big on my 155 ROME CHEAPTRICK.... would my size 11 boots fit a medium?
Nah, sorry. A medium will only fit up to 10 at the most. A large is the only way you can go.
wrong wrong andrew...they fit up to 12 at least...thats coming from personal experience with this binding...if you get a large then you wont be able to crank your straps tight enough even at the smallest setting, it happened to me and it SUCKED!
Yup, a medium would be the way to go. Call up custy service and they can help you out.
They feel good but everytime I wreck the toe strap comes undone...
think burton made these match on purpose? :-)
Left Binding 3/4 Back
opposite of stock picture. both left and right bindings are the same
Cartel 3x and 4x mount plates
BEWARE. The cartels have an awesome padded footbed, HOWEVER, while the Burton 3x mount plates with the binding come padded to match, the 4x plates DO NOT. Leaving an uneven footbed. Not a cool move, Burton.