When the going gets deep, go with the Fish LTD.
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Why dosen't burton make this board with...
Why dosen't burton make this board with normal binding inserts?
I would like this board but wouldn't buy burton bindings just to ride it
burton doesn't make any boards with "normal" binding inserts, do they?
You might be able to get compatible mounting disks at your local shop - call 'em up & ask if they have mounting plates that will fit whatever bindings you already own.
Burton says they do it because the riding is so much better with it but the only reason they do it is so you have to buy their ridiculously overpriced bindings
The answer is fairly simple and two-fold.
- Burton is a privately held company that can do what they want to... no bottom line stock brokers trading them on the NYSE. BristolMTBoarder has a fairly uneducated thought process.
- Its what the team riders, product developers, and Jake himself want. They will not settle for an aged mounting system when there are PERFORMANCE gains from the channel. Anyone who doesn't like the superior flex and feel of the channel has likely not spent much time riding it.
Why settle for mediority. Do yourself a favorite... ride the sickest POW board ever and get the unparralled flex, feel, and stance option the channel and EST provide. You may be hating now, but when your board makes you a better rider you'll quickly change your mind.
Forum bindings disk bindings work as well.
ryan board rep get off your pedestal... not everything burton makes is superior, and most is overpriced for what you get.
Does the fish tail make any complications...
Does the fish tail make any complications in riding swichi?
Yes it does. This board is not made to be ridden switch. You only have like 10" of tail when you mount this board up.
Ryan, actually Andrew is not correct... the tail does not cause complications and it can be ridden switch.
However, Andrew is correct in this board is tapered 30cm towards the tail with a 3" setback stance so you really wouldn't want to ride switch... If you tried riding switch in powder on this think it would be very, very challenging. On hard pack style groomers its not that bad, I've done it plenty of times.
All and all, This board is the powder slayer! It is so wicked-fun when the snow is deep! .. or in the trees, or in that mushy end of the day stuff.
Kinda of... You can still ride one switch for sure, but the taper will make it pretty squirmy on hard pack and switch in pow will be a chore for sure... So it's possible but doesn't work our that great..
If I ride a 156cm board, what length fish...
If I ride a 156cm board, what length fish do you recommend?
I weight about 137lb, height is 172cm.
Is there no staff to answer for my question???
..what is the s camber?? are they like the...
..what is the s camber?? are they like the banana boards (surfboard style bottom curve??)
S camber is not like banana camber. S camber engages when weight is put on the board, pulling the nose up for epic POW riding. Hope this helps, it's a great board and what I ride probably 50% of the time here in Utah!
See how he said 50% of the time... LOL. The answer is simple... due to the 10 year patent rights that Lib Tech has on their BTX (banana technology) nothing is like the banana camber... the closest thing you will be able to find without actually getting a board from lib tech is gnu's version... Rome, Never Summer, Capita, Burton, K2, they all have their versions of the reverse camber technology but since they cant use the banana tech... its almost like quiznos trying to make subways cold cut sub without one key piece or ingredient (for legal purposes)... thats why your gunna see a lot of companys with the "STEP ROCKER" or "REVERSE CAMBER" technology... plain and simple BANANA TECHNOLOGY is going to change the game forever, if your not riding it its almost like your working with dial up while everyone is running with dsl or cable... your just getting left behind
S-camber is rocker in the nose and camber between the bindings. The rocker gives you even more lift to the nose of the board in the deep fluffy white stuff, which makes it even easier on your back leg, above and beyond the powder-float programmed into the original Fish shape. The camber in the tail keeps you on track on the short stretches of piste between the trees and the chairlift, or on north face ice chutes, heaven help you. Banana traction is good stuff, but it isn't the internet to everyone else's Model T Ford. The S-rocker is good stuff and the Fish has been putting smiles on Terje Haakonsen's face since he helped design it 6-7 years ago. Don't knock until you've tried it on a deep day. And don't spread misinformation: Gnu uses the same Banana Tech Lib Tech does, since they are both made by the same company--Mervin Mfg. Roxy boards, too.
My Burton Fish LTD
I absolutely love this board! It's a 150 and I wanted a short,powder board.It has made all the difference in how I ride and enjoy the powder,more.It's easy to ride in all conditions,handles everything and just alot of fun.It's a sic board and it is,absolutely,my favorite one!
If I ride a T6 159 normally (2008 model),...
If I ride a T6 159 normally (2008 model), what length Fish do you recommend? I've heard about downsizing when going with a Fish, but also heard the new 2009 Fish lengths take account that downsizing?? I weight about 185... with gear 190??
Burton recommends that you downsize 3 to 6 cm From Normal Board Length, so I'd go with the 156.
Can I use a Burton ICS board with Salomon...
Can I use a Burton ICS board with Salomon bindings? I heard there is an adaptor plate? How well does it fit? Where can I get the plate?
Yes you can. The plates come with the board. It replaces the normal disc that comes with your bindings. It should fit well - these plates are pretty standard. The screws will be near the middle of the disc. I've never used the discs. Without sounding like I'm schilling for you to buy new bindings, I think using the discs will eliminate the feel advantage to ICS/EST, since your bindings will still be mounted via a hard plastic disc in the middle of the binding, rather than the foam baseplate directly on the board, as with EST bindings. But you'll still get the advantage of mounting your bindings anywhere on the board - though without the same side-to-side adjustability.
Don't listen to the guy below. Never never never use disc that aren't guaranteed by the manufacturer to be compatible. As far as I know, the only ICS disc compatible binders are Burton. The only third party making ICS system compatible disc are Flux. Mount Salomons using ICS disc, it might look or seem OK on the carpet or mellow groomer, but if you hit a kicker and land wrong...you could trash your ankle for life! I've heard accidents of this sort, meaning using discs un100% compatible. The binders could rotate in the most unwanted angle, with enough impact!