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soo im looking at getting a set up goin cuz im keen to go live in the snow. just wondering bout some peoples opinions, i was thinking maybe the grails and the malavita est bindings, not sure wat sorta board yet but. but they are a bit prices and im only looking to spend around 2 grand aus on evrything including jacket etc. just wondering wat everyone reckons. cheers
July 17, 2010
ok thanks heeps man, ive been skiing for a while, just come back from my 1st time snowboarding and picked it up pretty easily aye, would just like some of my own stuff so i dont have 2 keep using hire all the time. thanks
July 17, 2010
Now is the time to buy for real, great prices for great product. The grail and Malavitas would be an awesome combo, but it depends on you skill level. If you are just learning, no need to throw down that kind of money. Check out the Ruller or even the Moto for boots and Customs or Missions for bindings. Hope this helps.
By: Wooden Robots
July 17, 2010
February 1, 2010
Great boot. I used to have the SLXs with CO2s and Cartels. I switched to the Grails and the Malavitas. Great combo. Really comfy. Obviously, it's not as responsive as the SLX/Cartel setup, but it's still more than responsive enough and much more playful. If you want a slightly stiffer boot, I hear the Shaun Whites are the way to go. I will be riding the Grails for a long time. They are comfy with plenty of response. I hear that the 2011 will be a bit stiffer than this years model.
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I´m think I will order a pair of the Grail-boot to Sweden cuz everything is much more expensive here and I wondering about the sizes..The last 4 seasons I´ve used the Hail and now I´m looking for something with a little bit more support..like the Grail(I like what I have read about it so far). I have always used size 9(witch is the size I use in my regular shoes) and it has always been a perfect size for me. So I don´t know if I have the guts to order a pair of size 9 of the Grail without try them out(witch to be honest feels really stupid) and I don´t have a chance to try them anywere if I don´t drive for 4 hours. Does anyone knows if the sizes in the Hail and Grail is similar?? It will be a big screw up if I order them and they end up to small or to big so if anyone has experience of this or know anyone who has or just want to give me a tip it would be great..Thanks a lot and best regards from Tobias
January 12, 2010
I would order a half size down from your shoe size and then have them heat molded. This will give you a really nice fit after the break in period. However, the fit on these the Hail and the Grail are similar so if you were comfortable in the 9 before you will be comfortable in the 9 again. Burton has really dialed that out of the box perfect fit. Have a safe trip home.
By: Moriah Roberts
January 13, 2010
Ryan (i see you're a burton rep), how does this season's Flex 3 liner compare to last season's Flex 2 liner? i rode the Flex 2 in last season's JJ boot, and to be quite honest, it was horrible... just waayyyyyyyy too soft and ended up breaking down on me after only a few days out... i know that the Flex 3 has a few tweaks to it, but do the tweaks really make it stiffer, more supportive, and more durable than the Flex 2 liner? or is it going to be more of the same mush after 5 days on-hill?
thanks for the info; i'm hoping the Flex 3 really is better, because otherwise, the Grail seems to be exactly what i'm looking for.
November 11, 2009
Hey thanks for the great info and quick reply, Ryan... I actually rode Shaun's boot in 2007. Unfortunately, the air bladder in the sole blew on me somehow. It was a great boot, and super comfy, despite this. But, i did notice that it packed out quite a bit (i'm a 12.5 street shoe and rode a 12 Shaun and after pack-out the Shaun become a little loose even with tightening). I'm digging the park focus of the Grail over the Shaun, so i think i will give these a try this season. But, I had one more question about the Grail concerning sizing and potential for pack-out. Will the new Infinite Liner Sole really prevent pack-out to the extent Burton claims? I was thinking about going with a size 11.5 in the Grail, but would the Infinite Liner Sole warrant me going with a 12 again? I know boot sizing is a tricky game to play, but i just thought i'd see if you had an opinion on it.
November 11, 2009
Hey there Streblo... Sorry you feel that way about the flex 2 Liner... But to be frank, that JJ boot is way too soft for me to, I like something with a medium Flex.
When considering the liner its just as important to consider the Overall construction/material of the boot. Jeremy's boot is about minimalistic materials with a skate-like look and feel... and ultra soft flex.
The Grail is all performance! I just rode it today for opening day at Brighton, UT... and it is definitely not too soft for me. It is going to break in a bit, but I actually unlaced the top of the boot today as it felt a little stiff when jibbing around. Again, it will break into a softer boot, just not as soft as the JJ. The flex three liner does have the infinifit liner that makes for a better base for the foot bed. Overall, the liner construction is similar (flex 2 to 3). As mentioned above, emphasis should be placed on both the construction of upper and lower of the boot to dial in and adjust the flex.
Some other options might be that you may want to take a look at; Shaun's boot. Its slightly stiffer and has an imprint liner (thus the power panels run up near the top of the boot) Many of Burton (and other companies) Pro's still ride the Shaun White boot because it is a solid performing boot, with a slightly above medium flex.
And from there you can also look into the Ion. Flex here is slightly above Shaun's boot.
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Happy Hunting! Let me know if you have any more questions.
By: Four Horsemen
November 11, 2009
November 25, 2009
So it was time to get some new boots this year as my 2nd set of Ions had packed out and at this point were way to big for me. I tried on DC, Salomon,k2, Ride and pretty much every boot in the store(I wanted to try something non burton)... Tried on this boot. Sold. Ridiculous. Unbelievable Comfort. It has a Nike-looking air sole and it honestly feels like a high end basketball/workout shoe due to the incredible amount of cushioning in the heel. Burtons new imprint 3 liner is also the real deal. On top of that it's low-profile for those of us with large feet. I have a narrow foot and ended up sizing down a size and a half in the grail as the shop heet molded me with a toe cup. I rode the boot today and it's CUSH. It's labeled as a freestyle boot, and has a burton flex rating of 6 which is mid-stiff. Plenty responsive but comfortable as it has an articulating cuff that helps with presses etc. I was expecting some pain today as I bought the boot a little small, but there really was none. Even going from Speed laces to the normal lacing on the grail was flawless with zero adjustments throughtout the day. Heel-hold was excellent with zero heel-lift without j-bars. Much more comfortable than my Ions. This is an almost perfect all mountain boot that has the comfort of an athletic shoe. A slayer in any situation. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I'm grabbing a second pair in purple as soon as they go on sale.
is there a lacing system for the liner, or is it just the velcro at the top?
November 9, 2009
Yup, the liner has a full ankle support lacing system that attaches to inside bottom of the boot. (not actually attached to the liner -- which is actually a better construction than ones attached to a liner) The liner itself just Velcros on the top, but believe me, you won't have any issues with it. That NEW design came directly down from Jake Burton himself who rides more than all of us!
This boot is by far the best Boot I have ever ridden!!! The "holy shit" outsole is crazy-good. Lateral support with medial flex! banger!
By: Four Horsemen
November 9, 2009
December 10, 2009
I recently purchased a pair of Grails and would recommend them. The H.S. shock absorption system is legit and they fit better than any boot I have ever ridden. They are classified as a park boot and the only downside is I find them too stiff for park. To compensate I only laced the first 2 hooks and that seemed to solve the issue.
December 11, 2009
i'm coming off a season of riding the jeremy jones boot, which i absolutely hated; so anything was bound to be better... i was looking for something with some flex (about a medium flex but definitely more than the jj), but still the right amount of support when needed... this fit the bill, but i'm still pretty iffy about burton's Flex liner series... it's pretty much the same liner from the jj boot with a few tweaks, and i've got to admit that the liner on the jj's sucked arse... the Flex liner is just way too soft to provide anything other than comfort (which will disappear once the mushy foam in them breaks down after riding)... hopefully, the outer on the grail, which is built way more solidly than the jj boot, will help with support and durability... still, i don't see any reasons at all why burton should charge $330 for these... they've really got to work on the Flex liner to make it a lot better in order to justify that kind of price... the other aspects of the boot are great (the air midsole system, the holy shit outsoles, the overall outer build of the boot are all awesome), but the liner really needs to go... hey burton, take a cue from K2, Ride, and Salomon, and go back to the liner drawing board...
December 27, 2009
awesome for the park, i feel it had perfect flex, but thats just me.but for trail riding not so much, i got alittle bit of a foot ach when i rode trails for the first part of the day but were fine when i switched 2 park. deffinatly reccomend these. and color on the purple boot is so sick (nice and bright). and these boots are so warm, was riding in -20 temps the other day and my feet were still real warm.