The Hip just is hip. No denying that.
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Livin' in em'
I have had these pants for about 6 months. I recently fell in love with them. They are very lightweight, and cover about half of my knee (I'm 5'5") - so I rarely use them when snowboarding unless it's really warm. But... I sleep in them all the time. And now I use them a lot for hiking and bouldering. And fyi - they are so light, that I wore them out in the sun for a few hours and got a tan right through them... I gave them 4 stars cause I wish they were a tad longer and a tad thicker.