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January 15, 2011
This is a great pair of slim fitting fleece pants to be worn as an extra layer on frigid days.
The sizing chart is perfect. Do not oversize.
These should be worn over your normal base layer and under your outer layer. It is meant to add insulation to your outer layer but not to replace your normal base layer or its properties.
I use them everytime the temp is less than 20*F. Worked great in 0*F with wind chills into the -10*F.
December 21, 2010
I bought both the torque and the havoc last year. Had a chance to test them at not so extreme temps in France last week. -10c and i was actually really cold in the torque under a burton AK stagger 2l pair of pants. The havoc which is much thinner but tighter felt much warmer.
Not sure if i should have downsized or something, or if this should be worn over something else like an insulator layer.
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