are these to be used as boxers like a first...
are these to be used as boxers like a first layer?? or over something
My buddy has a pair of 'crash-pads' (essentially the same thing but just made by a different company). He wears his boxers and long underwear (if he needs them) under his crash pads, then his pants on over his crash pads. This makes it easier for changing into and out of them. Also, if you scare the crap outta yourself, you wont leave evidence in your hip pads ;). Hope this helps.
definately need some droors under