I don't think the alameda are that skinny a fit.. .they are more "slim" fit in my opinion... and long.. a lot of material left on bottom.. i have 2 pairs of them which are going to go on ebay asap. The old school emerica skelter jeans are the slimmest jeans ive owned and also the most "stretch" feel which is super comfy when skating... though I've yet to find another pair of pants like those since i ripped mine in the fall. Stay away from Levi 511, alamedas, (unless pico alameda, which is what they all wear), krew cm denim, etc