These are some pretty nice cords...the fit is almost exactly like the Alameda besides for the fact that the pockets are like 1 inch deeper, which makes them feel weird...especially if your phone is in your pocket. Overall, I must say that these are pretty dope...they have a nice fit and the color stays pretty much the same after a few washes. The pants kind of looses it's softness after a few washes, but it's not a big deal. The only other negative thing that I can think of is these get really linty if you don't wash them alone or with dark colors. Oh yeah...these keep you crazy warm during the winter.