I bought these from Zumies, and I had been wanting them for quite a while. Zumies never had stock, and didn't really want to buy online before I actually tried them out. I was actually more interested in the boot, but the skate shoe does just fine! I like the built in arch support, something that you usually don't see that in most skate shoes. I went from Globe shoes to DVS just for that fact! These give me great support. I really wanted a tan shoe to match my work boots, so this was the only way to go.