I love these board pants. They have tons of pockets, fit real nice, and have a zip out liner for when its super chilly. I've been out probably 30+ times in these things and have yet to get noticably wet in them even on the warmer days. I hardly use the zip out liner because it honestly gets too hot when its 20+ degrees out and your movin around a lot. Overall, If your stuck between these and another brand or 2, I'd get these. You wont be disappointed.