I ordered a pair (medium) for my son and a pair for myself (extra large) in the black and blue color in late January 2011. They are a bit large on most all of the fingers except the middle index finger. However, one size down would have cramped the middle index finger and made the rest a better fit. I'll take a bit oversized. From my wrist to my index finger is 20.5 cm and my son is 19.5 cm. We recently used these on two separate trips and on the second trip, they were so warm with the liners (outside temps just below freezing with no wind and sunny skies) that we had to forgo the liners. They kept our hands extremely warm and dry. Have not had any issues with the quality, but we only used them a total of four days so far. The colors match almost identically with my son's Ride Insano Double Boa snowboard boots.