I ordered these, Ride FULs and Nike Zoom Force 1's and in my opinion these were the best by far. They are very comfortable and are well built. The liner tightening system is simple and very effective and i think much better then the hard to use tightening systems on the rides and nikes. DC also rates this boot as 8 out of 10 on flex but i think it is a little softer then that. Overall im stoked on this comfy quiality boot.