Great pants w/ great details
I bought these pants looking for a pair of spring boarding pants. With a base layer they are way warmer than I thought they'd be. The 5000/8000 waterproofing/Breathability isn't goretex but does a surprisingly great job of keeping me warm and dry during on Washington's heavy wet snow days. The large had the baggy fit (not too baggy) and length I was looking for for my (5'11'' tall, 33" waist) frame. Overall, I'd recommend these pants to anyone.