From the beginning i can remember skating the eS/Krooked's by bobby worrest! and i loved there grip, feel, and everything! when i found out they were making a new Square 1(Square 2) shoe! i bought them asap! and i of course loved them! these shoes have everthing i needed! The bottoms don't wear down as fast and the square 1's! and the board feel, grip and quality are amazing!