Finally, a pair of jeans that fits next to perfect. I've tried on multiple pairs of skate/surf jeans & can't stand the low rise huggers. If you are looking for roomy, not too baggy jeans, these fit the best by far. I have 4 pairs of Matix jeans. They are the the Miner in Poor Boy waist 32 (skinnier & length 32) & in the new Jackpot color (skinnier, length isn't as long on these, say 30.5"-31"-ish) & 2 pairs of Triumphs. One of the Triumphs is a waist 33 in Bluelight & they're baggy & long, definitely need a belt to hold these up on me. The other Triumph is a waist 32 in Jackpot (same bagginess as the Jackpot Miners!, but not as long). Weird! This was a bit discouraging for me at first, as far as the bagginess goes, but I think they get baggier as the waist size goes up, or at least from my experience they do. But I love Matix, so it's all good. The leg fits perfect for me in these Volcom Black Zips & I'm about 5'10", 170 pounds. I'm going to have to exercise & skate more & hopefully the 32x30 will fit me or I'm gonna have to go for a 33x30 ha. Enjoy, peace.