Not as good as years before
I loved my old Burton mittens. I am female and like the roominess of men's mittens. I have medium hands for a female and tried a men's small and medium. In both cases, the thumb is too tight, even for my girly fingers. And forget it with the liners. The liners make it hard to take the gloves on and off. Compared to my old gloves, the cuff/gauntlet is not as long, and that was the deal breaker. In general, however, they are well made and seem warm.