Pros & Cons
The good: They are great for beginners! The padding on the bum and knees came in very handy since I spent most of my day falling. Also, they kept me very warm and dry (I only had on thermals underneath).
The not so good:The removable padding made my ass and knees look huge. I am 5'3" tall and 95 pounds, they were a little too big on me and I had to wear a belt (I bought a Small) . I may have needed to buy a smaller size, but I had already bought and returned another pair of 686 pants that were an XS and they were way too small/short.