These shoes are epically awesome. I have a pair of winterized Vans from a few years ago and was so happy to see these come out this year. I have the (outdoor)Brown/Dark Brown color and the rubberized upper is sweet. They fit true to size. I wear a men's 8.5 and they fit great. These are gonna be my go-to shoes for driving up to the mountain this year and they aren't super bulky while being really weatherproof!