great gloves. i'm not a fan of some of the super bulky gloves with removable liners - my hands get too warm - so this is perfect for me. The waterproofing is holding up OK, but I imagine that by mid-January I'll need to retreat them. I wore these last night and it was 13 degrees, they kept my hands nice and warm.
They are very comfortable,soft for leather, and they fit a little bit longer than some other brands, so if you have short stumpy fingers, maybe these aren't for you.