Pants look cool, most important factor to my 11 year old son. My instinct was to order him a medium, the size chart put him solidly in a large. The large are too big. I would've exchanged them for a medium but the 11 year old thinks they look even more cool all baggy and slung low - ugh! I think they look like he's going to get a lot of snow down his pants... Also, should've read more carefully - these rate very low on the 'waterproof' scale. Have yet to see how they'll perform on the slopes, no snow in PA yet.