If I could give these pants 10 stars I would. I've had these cargo's for a while now and they haven't dissapointed. They fit nicely with a little baggy portion in the thight. They fit like a pair of those baggy type Levi's but with a boot cut on the bottom. They keep my A** dry on the mountain! I usually wear the liner for the drive up there and then just slip right in when I get to the mountain. I agree with Page_Can about the pricing, you can't beat Dogfunk! PERIOD! Board safe homies.