great for the price
Snagged these pants for my gf off of whiskeymilitia the other day for $60. I was a little hesitant about 8k waterproofing and 5k breathability, but 686 has good products, and decided to do it.
turns out they're actually 10k waterproofing, 8k breathability. they're big for women's pants, the medium is probably around a 29 to 30 waist, but they're long. she's tall, so it's fine. the material is pretty durable, not the best i've ever felt, but definitely not the worst. the pixelated print is nice, and they have a lot of pockets and zips and things. good pants for the price.
also...they are WARM. if i had to guess, much more than the stated 20g insulation, they're fully insulated throughout the entire pant, and feel really nice when i tried them on (no homo).