i sent em back!
So people say 686 pants run long. Let me tell you...these were the highest highwaters I've tried on yet! Do not waste your time if you are typically a size 6 with inseam great than 30. I ordered Mediums, I'm a size 6 with 35 inseam, and these were 6 inches off the ground withOUT my boots on. But if you're really short, these pants are pretty hot and they feel OK.