This was the 1st set of ak outerwear that I've ever purchased. I had a really hard time justifying the price of the ak stuff. In the past I would've rather have purchased 2 pairs of cheaper(10k)pants than 1 expensive gore-tex pant. this pant has made me change my view on things. I can't say enough good things about Burton's ak outerwear. i love these pants and will definitely purchase more of burton ak line! you get what you pay for!