A big board-of-prey for big boys.
- New directional R.C. (rocker & camber) design features added camber in the front for extra stability with a rockered middle for added float in the deep stuff
- NS Superlight core blends ultralight and hard woods to keep you riding hard and long
- Lightweight carbonium topsheet adds strength and stability for charging big lines and deep snow
- Carbonium laminate technology features extra-burly x- and v-shaped carbon rods under the binding inserts to 'beast-up' the Superlight wood core
- CDS Dampening System features rubber stringers along the edges and under the bindings to increase rebound and dampen vibration without sacrificing flex or adding excess weight
- Fully wrapped edges reduce the chance of topsheet or base de-lamination
- P-Tex sidewalls, as well as tip and tail protectors, produce a highly-durable board for big, aggressive riders
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TITAN TX 169cm TO RAPTOR X 169cm
I went from the Never Summer Titan TX Wide 169cm to the Never Summer Raptor X Wide 169cm. The Raptor is the Titans Replacement. The Ride is NIGHT & DAY DIFFERENT! The Titan was stiff, heavy and unyielding. Lots of edge lots of control at high speeds but thats its only offering in comparison.The Raptor X is light, snappy, and pops out of holes, over moguls, and blasts through crud & crust. The board in powder was a whole new experience- for once I didnt have to lean back, it rides way longer than it is. I had to keep from wheeling over with any speed I got in the powder till I got used to it. Staying center over the board I found was the key in powder. In other words, if you have ever surfed, it rides just like a surfboard in the powder. The whole shifting of your weight is minor to get the board to move in comparison to the old camber style. This board is super responsive yet forgiving. So many times I thought I might catch an edge landing switch or jibbing around but it just keep going and surprised the hell out of me. I feel this board will make you ride better especially if you've been riding for a lot of years. There is a 2 day learning curve and I recommend having a POW day and a groomer day. The feel is different especially if your a hard charger and like to ride fast and steep. Now that I have been riding it for almost a month, I have never felt like the board was gonna wash out from under me even at high speeds. Icy faces were sketchy at times due to the board easily being manipulated into a turn on a whim. (Maybe this is the washing out some say this new technology brings?) SO YES THE HYPE IS REAL! I will never go back to old skool camber.*Side Note*I was riding on this 45 degree slope on a POW day and I barrel rolled and got my tail stuck on this small tree and had to do this inverted pushup to spin off of it. I hit so hard I thought I had shredded the Carbonium topsheet. NO SIR! All I left was some sap and light scuff. This board is tough! Now the true test... SKIERS AND LIFT LINES-WATCH YOUR STICKS PLEASE!
Get it wherever you can
As a frame of reference, I'm 6'3, 225 w/o gear, wear size 13 boots and have a 23 with 18/-6 angles. I've definitely have had toe drag issues and have been using Palmer Shock risers on a 2005 Burton Baron ES 168 (26.4 waist). It's a nice stiff board that still has a lot of pop out of turns, but it felt squirrely at high speeds. I was looking for a board to take me to the next level offering more stability and dampening.
I found many great reviews on the Raptor X online and even rode a lift next to a person with one. I had trouble finding a 169... Let's say I had it in my BC shopping cart for a few hours and on checkout, it was sold out. The NS website order went through before it was canceled. I had a good talk with NS' Vince and almost went with the 165 until I found a 169. Lesson: pull the trigger on a NS board sooner than later.
First impression: I had to stare at the board for two weeks before being able to ride. The online images don't do the carbonium top sheet justice. It seemed grippy enough to avoid a stomp pad. The base graphic's yellow is somewhat see through and you can see carbon inserts. Looking down the side from nose to tail, the RC is trippy to look at. I was worried about the flex. As stiff as I've heard it was, the nose to tail flex wasn't stiff at all. I still have noticeable toe and heel overhang and went with the risers.
Adjusting to my first non-cambered board took about 2 runs. I was very surprised at how easy it was to turn and maneuver. For harder stops, I felt like I had to bring my knees in together more. A 22 stance width felt more comfortable, too. I don't get the pop out of each turn and have only been getting it randomly. Vince didn't recommend detuning and I didn't find that to be an issue.
After a few weeks, I'm in love with the board. Tahoe has already offered many conditions to try the board out in. In packed powder, turns were like butter. In spring like slush or clumpy snow, the dampening is very noticeable. In fresh powder, I felt very centered and it was so much fun. In heavy non-groomed stuff, it felt effortless. Trees are do-able, but you have to pick good lines. Ice is ice, but the edges held well. I've been ok w/o a stomp pad, too.
I did meet a guy with a new Heritage. He suggested that with the RC, I try 70% rear leg weight outside of powder runs. He also suggested that I may have to jump out of turns to get the pop. I'm not sure I have all that down without thinking about it, but I can give an update later.
Worthy to replace the Titan
After riding a Titan TX 169 for the last 3 seasons and having been throughly impressed with my Revolver 159 RC, I decided to give the Raptor X 169 a try. My thoughts so far...
The flex is noticeably softer than the Titan, with the flex coming from the center like the other RC NS boards. The Titan was just a little on the stiff side, so the flex of the Raptor is just about right. Overall the ride is intuitive and composed while being very versitile for a big board. In fact a shorter version could be a nice quiver killer. Torsional flex is still pretty firm. Adjustment to this board was minimal but having some experience with other RC boards probably helped.
Stability is exceptional in most riding situations, especially is the chop. I've made a number of high speed passes averaging almost 60mph and never felt unnerved. I think the Titan is a little more stable but the Raptor feels faster (and is by a few mph according to my GPS). Carving is near that of a freecarve board however I think heelside turns on the Titan were slightly deeper and more stable. I prefer a toe side carve on the Raptor as it seems to be smoother and deeper than the Titan. The Raptor arcs better down the hill whereas the Titan turns better across and up; mainly a difference in the vario vs tri-radial sidecut. I'd prefer a little more snap out of a turn like the Titan but I don't feel like I'm being held up. Traditional camberd boards just seem to snap out of turns better. Overall though, the board makes smooth turns with no noticalbe quirks.Riding switch is doable but the board tends to want to revert around.
Powder riding is also very good. Minimal leg burn, and quick turns make it a great choice for a pow stick. I sold my powder board and see no reason to buy another one with boards like this on the market. I've been caught by suprise a couple of times by how fast the board is in the powder. Only a few jumps on the board. Take off is very clean and it doesn't "skate out" like my revolver can. Landings seem to be good as well. Pop is decent but I honestly expeted a little more.Overall a very, very good board (and work of art).
I can only think of two "cons". I've put several dents and scratches in the base of the Raptor over a few days of riding and none on my Titan after three years of riding (mostly the same terrain and conditions) There seems to be less core material or some other aspect of the board that makes it less bombproof than the Titan. Obviously this results in weight savings which is a plus. I'll be curious to see how the board holds up in the long run. I don't think there'll be any problems with delams or edges pulling out as the quaility is still there but I think I'll need to be more aware of snow conditions when charging like I did on the Titan.The only other issue or adjustment is the tendency to be put in the back seat when I get knocked off line. It takes longer for the back of the board to build support compared to a cambered board. And takes more of a conscious effort to stay centered. Because of this I might lean towards the Titan in really aggressive terrain.Overall the Raptor is a board that offers versatility which I didn't think would be possible. A board that has good stability, can carve, and blast through powder all in the same run is a big win. I like the weight savings but I'm not convinced a new paradigm of light and durable exists. I'd like to see NS fine tune this a little. Overall though, the positives far outweigh the negatives, and I highly recommend this board.
200 lbs 6 ft tall size 12 boots; what size...
200 lbs 6 ft tall size 12 boots; what size should I get?
I would suggest binding risers. I am the bro that is mentioned above... The 169 is long but is awesome... great all around and super fast. The rocker will act longer in pow and shorter on groomers, at least from what I have read. So I do plan to get the 165! Get on it and shred it up!
Don't Down Size... ARE YOU A JIBBER? The board does ride bigger than it is but its also super light and turns on a dime with the RC CAMBER --So you can huck 3's all day and have extra float when you want it. Plus if you like to ride fast it helps to have the longer board. With this new Camber your feeling of "washing out" due to the ease of turns is lessened with the longer board.