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These are def the Carhartt quality, but seem to fit a little weird. They are tight in the thighs, but loose enough the rest of the way down. Couldn't really go up in waist to accommodate either. I'll keep them for some back up jeans at this price.
I'm not afraid to pad up these days, so I went with these. First pair of crash shorts I have owned. I like the removable plastic, does feel weird at first but eventually you get used to riding with them on. Should have got the L instead of XL, my fault though. They tend to ride down after awhile, which puts the tailbone pad out of place. All in all I like them, we'll see how they are for Downhill biking.
These gloves are pretty sick. They are a bit thicker of a pipe glove, so they keep me warm on those colder days. The palms are SUPER sticky......Grab and tweak, grab and tweak. They also handle anything you are fumbling with on the chair without feeling like you are going to drop it into some lift line fresh.