We bought these for our 8 year old boarder for the DryRide Waterproof shell and fit. He can attest to their ability to stay dry after a day of sitting in the snow to ratchet your bindings but there is no tear protection around the bottoms of legs. As many boarders know there is a lot of shimmying around pushing with one leg out of the board. When pushing fast the board has a tendency to lift up a bit and rub on the bottom of the pants. We will be returning these for a pant with some protection around the bottom of the leg on the inside.