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The fire is one of Oakley's lenses with the lowest light emission, meaning that the least amount of light gets through. Therefore the lens is darker. The persimmon on the other hand is the best all-around lens I have ever used, and if you can get passed the inherent "cool" factor of the mirrored lens, persimmon is undoubtedly the better option for your riding style.

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I got these pants in 2007, and have worn them almost exclusively for 3 seasons of 30+ days. The corduroy looks awesome and functions better. It has held up to abuse that has shredded the bottom of all other pants I have ever owned.