I was looking for a stiff boot and these are pretty stiff. They fit good and are really comfortable. The liners come out easily so I can dry them completely and fit back in with no problem. The only thing I'm concerned about is the lacing system, while it works now, I've heard that if the lace breaks the local shop charges $45 to relace it. That would suck. I guess if it only happens once during the entire life of the boots, it wouldn't be that bad. So far, I'm stoked with these boots. I used to ride hard boots with Trenchdigger bindings and was looking for a stiff soft boot to give me similar edge control, this boot fits the bill better than any other I've tried.