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Thanks for your help Phil, these pro-tec shorts caught my eye because the padding runs along the bum aswell and i have tried shorts from under armour,presicion training and mc david which although the padding is fairly good, it only covers a small area of the hip so if i land on my bum slightly more then the padding is not cushioning my landing. Is the padding on the pro-tec not so good (i.e. thats why they are not the best in your opinion)? and why do you rate the Seirus shorts higher than these?(there are no video reviews so im not quite sure if the material is good or not) really appreciate the help mate! thanks