i just got these pants yesterday and once i tried them on, i fell in love with them in seconds. I bought the South Beach and the Oh snap pants in Large and let me say that the color is crazy and they are mad baggy. for me being 5'6" weighing 180, the large fit well around my waist. as for the length, i would say its perfect cause the boots will hold them up and it really wont matter while i am snowboarding. thanks Guys!!!!