Okay, so this is why women sometimes don't get the cred we deserve standing in the lineup on Palisades in Squaw. It's because some ditsy girl is going to show up wearing these pants.....the fit, color and material is all fashion and looks with nada for function. If you want to just hang out at the mountain and look good, buy these pants. They really look great on and they feel like a favorite pair of jeans. Waterproof or, I'm dubious to think even water-repellent, they certainly are not. These will get soaked with moisture and very heavy and wet (then they'll bag and you'll look like every other 16-year old boy). The skinny fit? Fine as long as you don't want to actually crouch down, tuck, pull an aggressive turn, put your skis up on edge, or er...actually SKI or SNOWBOARD in these pants.