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It pains me to drop so much on a pair of pants but these get the job done. You can go cheaper with Snowshots, but I've been using Gore-Tex long enough that it's tough to go back. There are also much more expensive pairs, but 2L membrane is plenty for the skiing I do here in Utah. The mesh liner's a nice feature and the vents are exactly where I like them. This season's styles seem to be pretty dark, but be cautious with the lighter colors as they can start to get grimy after a full season of heavy use.