Ordered them for my 13 yr old. The size 8 is a good fit and they are very comfortable. She does not like them though. I like them and I think they are great quality. I do though agree with her about the slouching top part. I might like them if I could control them better. I wish the side flaps were adjustable. Other then that I like them, but not a love. They are so comfortable and were such a great deal though, I think they are a keeper for me. She wants the canvas Dr. Martens now.
P.S. I have had them for a few weeks now and I love them! I have had many compliments.