I bought two pairs of these mitts. One pair for me, the other for my wife. After one outting at the hill both pairs had holes in them all around the seams. There was even a hole in the palm of my wife's pair. I called Burton to see about a possible warranty, and they said it was not covered under warranty. Well there's $260 down the drain. I will never buy a Burton product again, and suggest you look elsewhere for warm mitts. I have a pair of Black Diamonds now and they are fantastic. Do yourself a favor, don't waste your time with these mitts.