I love these trunks, the length is perfect for wakeboarding/surfing, as knee movement is not restricted at all, and they aren't too short. I'm 5'10 and the length is right at my knee cap. The sizes are weird tho. I wear a 34 in all other brands, but the volcom 34 was really tight, so I traded in for the 36, which is a little loose, so I guess I need a 35 in volcom which they don't offer. Oh well I still love the length and style, 18-20" trunks are whats up.