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this is a good pack if you plan on taking necessary BC essentials and maybe a thin extra layer, water and some snacks, not much else will fit, this pack is low profile and fits snug. i use a D handle shivel and the handle extends longer than T handle shovels so it is a real tight fit putting the handle in the pack, there is external carry for the probe but i put the probe in the pack and the shovel handle on the probe carry snaps and all is well. this is NOT the same 'afterburn" color as the other ak colors, i have burton AK afterburn gloves and they are an orange and this pack is more red, even though this is the same name and line as my gloves. this is a good pack for the minimalist.