I had Oakley A frames and was thinking about trying Electric, Smith or Von Zipper. After reading some other reviews on dogfunk.com about the Crowbar I deceided to stick with Oakley. I was not disappointed at all. These things are sweeeeet! I always wanted the fire lens (which I got) and they are awesome. First time I used them was in pretty flat light and they were still great. The frames are huge with super periphrial vision. Stoked about my new Oakley Crowbars.