I tried both a medium and a large. The medium fit perfect without the underglove, and way too tight with the under glove. The large was too big without the underglove, and just too tight with the underglove. The under glove seemed to be the problem. You can really feel the folds on the inside of the under glove stitching. I should have stuck with the medium without the underglove, but just ended up getting frustrated with shipping back and forth and got the medium baker glove...now I'm happyish. I wish i didnt have to pay for shipping gloves back. I wrote this so you wouldn't have to do what i did.