I was silly in not reading up on the difference between park gloves and mountain gloves. Recently bought these before I went to Park City after a season at Whistler, and they were no where near warm enough. However, I'm from Australia, so they should be perfect for the weather back there. Bought them in White and they already have a few stains from the water getting in them after five days of riding. I did'nt water proof them however.
Overall. Love the feel of them, good size and quite happy with them for weather in OZ