I got these primarily as an inbounds pole with the occasional sidecountry or backcountry tour.These poles are really burly and surprisingly heavy, despite being carbon poles. I wasn't really expecting them to be so heavy. Not to say they are the heaviest, but I've never used a heavier pair. The swing weight feels slow and lethargic to me. I'd trust them as a solid backcountry pole, but maybe I'm just picky, they're just a bit heavy and slow for my liking. Giving 4 stars instead of 3 because despite being heavy, they are extremely well constructed and everything else is great, so most people looking for a dependable, burly pole will like it a lot.