I've tried several burton pants, sessions and 686 pants, and they are no comparison to burton cargo pants. they are light, comfy and keeps me dry. I wear knee pads and impact shorts, so I need baggy pants and they fit me very well. I normally wear 33-34' waist size and I got myself a large and it fits perfectly. I hear next year gortex version of these pants are coming out... i can't wait for that!