Let me start of by saying I've been skating for 4 years and I've been throu almost every skate shoe out there. And I gotta tell ya these are the best shoes I've ever Ridin in my life. My first pair was the white with brown gum sole. Once you get them they may feel a little weird but once u walk around in then for 5 minutes they feel great. So first things first if you skate like me every day, all day these shoes will literally last u a week but and if your a crazy kicflipin monster ( if you kickflip alot) these shoes will rip in a good week. That's the only reason I give these a four is because they rip so fast. But if you got the money or you need that one trick for your video get these shoes.