I bought two sets of these. First time was a medium, fit really snug considering my other pair are mediums and they are still loose on me. Figured "Eh, maybe they're just snug because they're too small". Wrong, they're just terribly designed. I went a size up and no, I'm not fat, but there was next to no flexibility in these pants. And when I tried to zip the pockets they literally just fell off like butter. Just for that I probably won't ever buy outerwear from Foursquare again, but I will definitely continue with Backcountry. Yet again you guys were so easy to deal during both returns so thanks again for not being awesome. I wouldn't shop anywhere else.