Hey over there, I'm English and seasoning again in Italy (that's Europe). I am now on my third pair of Ion's and have to say that they are useless. I like the new velcro system and have always liked the speedzone lacing but these new re-designed Ion's deform when you close them. As for the support 8, I would probably put them at a 5 tops, more like a jib boot than a shredder. They look ridiculously out of shape and they stop the blood flow across the top of my toes and have ruined my season as I have no cash to purchase others. I have a narrow foot which used to have no probs in the old Ions but now I'm gutted!! As you dudes say over there, If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it!