got this jacket for this this winter and i couldnt be happier. great fit and goes perfect with my smarty pants when using the pow skirt. def kept me super warm on a chilly day, all day and was completely dry at the end of the day. ive always been impressed with 686 and will continue to buy there pants and jackets as long as they keep making them this steezy! the liner is fine it keeps u super warm and can easily be zipped out if ure over it but its very nice for the cold days. aloha.