Its hard for me to find ski/snowboard pants that aren't too big so I ordered the loyal blue xs. Even though I was looking for some slimmer snow pants, these are just a bit TOO thin and slim and short. I don't think there's enough insulation to be comfortable on a cold day on the mountain. They are also really flared at the bottom. The royal blue color is really bright even though they look almost navy colored in the picture. The quality is really nice though, but unfortunately will have to return them.