1. 2012 GNU Billy Goat 165 C2BTX
2. 2011 Lib Attach Banana 159 EC2BTX
3. 2011 Lib TRS 162 C2BTX
4. 2010 Lib TRS 159 BTX
5. 2009 Lib TRS 167 BTX (pow only stick)
1. 2012 Never Summer Heritage 162 RC2 Vario
2. 2012 T.Rice 161.5 C2BTX
3. 2012 Lib Attack Banana 159
4. 2012 Lib TRS 157
5. 2012 Lib Skunk Ape 161 C2BTX
6. 2012 Never Summer EVO 160 RC2 Vario
Owned or repd:
59/lean 200-210 lbs w/o gear/10.5 ThirtyTwos/Union Force SLs
Riding experience-20+ yrs/AASI Instructor 14 yrs with Free Style Accreditation
Riding: Mostly off piste, back country, CAT/heli, lift accessed powder, park jumps, some rails & boxes
Having ridden a variety of boards, brands, technologies and styles over the past 20+ years I have had ample opportunity to store a lot of data in my simple mind.
Goal: Look for a new powder/off piste board with better turn capability than my 167 TRS Rocker only board but can still float back country powder and get be back to the lift line in a fun, safe, playful manner.
Result: After riding many boards and talking to many different experienced riders I was down to the T.Rice 164.5 and the Billy Goat 165. I have passed on the Billy Goat for the past 3 seasons thinking that it was too narrow in the waist for my size 10.5-11 boots and my style. This season I bought the 165 Billy Goat after much thought and many questions, mounting my Union Force SLs to it.
Stiff Board-the stiffest in my quiver
Quick, light, flickable turning stick
Turns much easier in tight trees in deep powder than the 167 TRS
Demands to be ridden very fast and in a very hard charging manner. The board will kick your ass if you baby it instead of charge it. The Goat performs best when ridden to the riders limit, always.
Not for the beginner or intermediate-unless you want to beat yourself up
Floated over everything when ridden fast. Conditions were from:
o Bottomless to 18 inches untouched, light powder depending on run or hike
o Turning to heavier untouched powder later in the day
o Chopped up powder on day 2
o Groomers back to the lift lines
Even on the chopped powder conditions, the Goat floated seamlessly above the chop, seemingly to just float over the top, smoothing out the ride and feeling more like untouched powder versus riding the 162 TRS in which I could feel every nuance of the topography.
When turning the Goat hard and using tilt, it would just slice through the crud (love new edges in some situations). When turning through narrow chutes or trees, a lot of power was needed to initiate twist along the core of the board due to its stiffness. It does pivot easily and overall is a very quick turning board for its size.
The Billy Goats stiffness does give feedback to the rider if its packed powder or firm, choppy off piste conditions. There is still a nominal amount of torsional twist sufficient to initiate quick edge to edge turns on groomers. For a camber-rocker-camber board it turns very well. Much better than rocker only; of course, slightly slower than a camber only board and slightly slower than the Never Summer Heritage 162. The Heritage (soft board, little pop, super quick turning) would fold up in the conditions and style in which the Billy Goat was ridden. The two boards arent meant for the same riding.
If you are focused on off piste riding, back-country, narrow chutes, powder lines in the trees, high speeds, charge faster than your friends, need to turn like a Ferrari and have a powerful riding style-ride with lots of flexion and extension in your lower body & ankles-this board is a dream come true. If you lollygag around, like groomers and chillin at the beach or slow, Sunday afternoon walks, stay in the park,or youre a beginner/intermediate rider-this board will kick your ass! Temple charges and rides hard 100% of the time and his Billy Goat delivers the goods. You and I probably wont ride like Temple if on one, but you can appreciate his style evident all throughout this model!