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4 5

Took these pants out for a day and was impressed. No complaints with waterproofing and breathability so far, and pants come with pretty standard features. For reference in this photo, I'm 5'11" and 180lbs in the XL. I prefer extra length and some bagginess in my pants, but I've also got a big waist (36) and thick thighs so they didn't look stupid baggy on me. Adjust the waist cinch, throw on a belt, and I was good to go.

Took a star off because it would have been nice to see some sort of reinforcement at the hems since this is a supposed to be a loose fitting pair of pants. Otherwise, I would highly recommend these if you're into the baggy fit, especially since SB is no longer in business.

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3 5

After having ridden Union Forces and a handful of other Burton bindings, I can see why the Cartels are so popular. They're pretty light, straps are comfy, and the buckles slide well. My only concern on these bindings is the build quality. After only two days of hard riding, they're already showing signs of wear. Paint is beginning to chip around the heel cup (I'm riding the grey/blue colorway) and the foam on the highback where my boot rests against is already fraying. I wouldn't mind sacrificing a little bit of weight if it meant these bindings were more durable.

Response on these, I think Burton is stretching it with a rating of 7 out of 10. I'm riding these with a pair of 32 Tm Twos size 10 and the bindings feel like they're not even there, and I mean that in a good way, but not in a 7/10 way.

I'd give it 3.5 stars. if it weren't for the flimsy build quality and ridiculous price tag (I don't care if it's EST) it would get a solid 4 or even 5 stars.

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2 5

Where to start? I was quite disappointed in the quality of the fabric. Very thin and lightweight, felt like I was wearing garbage bags. These are supposed to be Burton's "baggy" fit, but they fit just the same as my old 2008 burton cargo pants, if not slimmer. Also, Burton advertised these pants as having test-i-cool venting zippers, where the crotch area is one full zip that crosses from one thigh over to the other. Nope, my pair just had two regular zip vents like most traditional pants.

If you like false advertising and paper thin outerwear, feed your $$ to the Big B, but I returned my pair immediately.

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