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I have used these pants 3 times in the last month. All times were really good conditions so it didn't really test the waterproofing, but that said didn't feel a bit of wetness anywhere. No insulation can be a drag if it's really cold outside, you'll have to put on a few layers, but works well in the high 20's and 30's. Definitely go with the smaller size if you're in between two sizes. Good Pants! Certainly get the job done

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